Some women from the OWCH group were interviewed by Winifred Robinson of Radio 4’s ‘You and Yours’ lunchtime programme as part of its series on ‘Care’. This was the result of Shirley attending a conference and offering the view that mutual support is also a key feature of ‘Care’ and needs encouraging. Winifred, who chaired the conference, came along to find out about OWCH and its intentions. We talked about the site in Barnet and how we were being blocked by an assumption that we ourselves would be looking for care and making demands on the local social care budget. We pointed out how difficult it seemed to be to convince local authority representatives that we are a positive resource - not only in respect of day to day informal support of our own members, but also for the locality we will be living in.